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November 4th, 2024

EPISODE 5

Disability and Medical Education, Part 2 
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Join us for Part 2 of our conversation with Dr. Lisa Meeks, a leader on disabilities in medical education and our friend from the Docs with Disabilities podcast, which she founded and co-hosts. Dr. Meeks discusses the prevalence of disabilities across the training and career spectrum, the risks of disclosure that students and physicians with disabilities face, and the resources of which we should all be aware for ourselves and for those around us.

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TRANSCRIPT

Show Notes
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Learning Objectives:
  1. Investigate the prevalence of disabilities among physicians at different stages of their training and careers.
  2. Recognize some of the challenges and risks associated with disclosure of one’s disability.
  3. Build awareness of the repository of reliable resources on physicians with disabilities, disability access, accommodations, and stories that one can utilize for themselves and share with trainees with disabilities who are looking for resources.


[0:00 - 2:30] Picking up from Last Episode, Prevalence of Disabilities in Physicians  
  • Welcome and Re-introduction of Dr. Lisa Meeks by Dr. Candace Sprott
  • Discussion of Dr. Meeks’ JAMA network open paper
  • Insights into the prevalence of disabilities among physicians and why the prevalence decreases from the training continuum into attending-hood.

[2:30 - 4:11] Risks of Disclosure
  • Students with disabilities face risks to their safety when they disclose their disability.

[4:11 - 11:24] Responsibility of Coming up with Accommodations
  • The burden of coming up with (and justifying their need for) accommodations is often placed on students with disabilities.
  • Many students are met with skepticism.
  • In some institutions, the ability of a student with a psychological disability to even become a physician is questioned the minute they disclose that diagnosis.

[11:24 - 14:50] Resources to Know are Available
  • Docs With Disabilities Podcast

[14:50 - 16:25] Additional Resources
  • Medical Students with Disability and Chronic Illness (MSDCI) www.msdci.org
  • www.docswithdisabilities.org 

[16:25 - 19:05] Allies vs Accomplices in Action
  • “Being an ally is great. … but to become an accomplice, to use your privilege, to challenge the existing conditions, the inaccessibility - that's powerful.”
[19:05 - 25:23] Closing Thoughts and Further Resources
  • When developing resources or events around disability awareness, don't forget to include people with disabilities in those conversations.
  • Dr. Justin Bullock: “‘Yourself in All Your Forms’: A Grounded Theory Exploration of Identity Safety in Medical Students”
  • Dr. Neera Jain: “Legibility: Knowing Disability in Medical Education Inclusion”
  • Closing by Dr. Candace Sprott


Credits:
Guest: Dr. Lisa Meeks
Host: Dr. Candace Sprott 
Executive Producer: Dr. Tammy Lin
Co-Executive Producers: Dr. Pooja Jaeel, Dr. Maggie Kozman
Associate Producer: Dr. Candace Sprott
Senior Producer: Dr. DJ Gaines
Production Assistants: Dr. Erynn Beeson, Dr. Andrea Anampa-Guzmán, Sanika Walimbe
Website/Art Design: Ann Truong
Music: Chris Dingman https://www.chrisdingman.com

Disclaimer: The DEI Shift podcast and its guests provide general information and entertainment, but not medical advice. Before making any changes to your medical treatment or execution of your treatment plan, please consult with your doctor or personal medical team. Reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by The DEI Shift. The views expressed by guests are their own, and their appearance on the podcast does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by The DEI Shift team are those of each individual, and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of The DEI Shift team and its guests, employers, sponsors, or organizations we are affiliated with. 
The DEI Shift podcast is proudly sponsored by the American College of Physicians Southern California Region III Chapter.  
The DEI Shift theme music is by Chris Dingman. Learn more at www.chrisdingman.com. 
​ Twitter and Instagram @TheDEIshift, email at [email protected], and our website www.thedeishift.com

Additional Resources
  1. Association of American Medical Colleges. Accessibility, Inclusion, and Action in Medical Education: Lived Experiences of Learners and Physicians with Disabilities. 2018. [Internet]. [cited 2024 Feb 3]. Available from: https://store.aamc.org/accessibility-inclusion-and-action-in-medical-education-lived-experiences-of-learners-and-physicians-with-disabilities.html
  2. Nouri Z, Dill MJ, Conrad SS, Moreland CJ, Meeks LM. Estimated Prevalence of US Physicians With Disabilities. JAMA Netw Open. 2021 Mar 1;4(3):e211254. doi: 10.1001/jamanetworkopen.2021.1254. Erratum in: JAMA Netw Open. 2021 Apr 1;4(4):e2110025. Erratum in: JAMA Netw Open. 2022 Aug 1;5(8):e2232194. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2777420
  3. Bullock JL, Sukhera J, Del Pino-Jones A, Dyster TG, Ilgen JS, Lockspeiser TM, Teunissen PW, Hauer KE. 'Yourself in all your forms': A grounded theory exploration of identity safety in medical students. Med Educ. 2023 Jul 30. doi: 10.1111/medu.15174. 
        https://asmepublications.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/medu.15174
  1. Petersen KH, Jain NR, Case B, Jain S, Meeks LM. Impact of USMLE Step-1 accommodation denial on US medical schools: A national survey. PLoS One. 2022 Apr 14;17(4):e0266685. doi: 10.1371/journal.pone.0266685. 
        https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0266685
  1. Jain NR. Legibility: knowing disability in medical education inclusion. Adv Health Sci Educ Theory Pract. 2023 Jul 21. doi: 10.1007/s10459-023-10268-1
        https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10459-023-10268-1
  1. DocsWithDisabilities Podcast | Family Medicine | Michigan Medicine. 2019. Available from: https://medicine.umich.edu/dept/family-medicine/programs/mdisability/community-building/docswithdisabilities-podcast
  2. Medical Students with Disability and Chronic Illness (MSDCI) Community. Advocacy. Education.  https://msdci.org/
  3. Stanford Medicine Alliance for Disability Inclusion and Equity (SMADIE) https://med.stanford.edu/smadie.html

Disclaimer

.The DEI Shift podcast and its guests provide general information and entertainment, but not medical advice. Before making any changes to your medical treatment or execution of your treatment plan, please consult with your doctor or personal medical team. Reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by The DEI Shift. The views expressed by guests are their own, and their appearance on the podcast does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by The DEI Shift team are those of each individual, and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of The DEI Shift team and its guests, employers, sponsors, or organizations we are affiliated with.

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    • SEASON 1 >
      • TRAILER
      • EPISODE 1 >
        • WELCOME TO THE DEI SHIFT
      • EPISODE 2 >
        • MEET THE DEI SHIFT: MORNING HANDOFF
      • EPISODE 3 >
        • MENTORSHIP & RECRUITMENT OF URIMS
      • EPISODE 4 >
        • Women in Medicine: "Faces Like Mine"
      • EPISODE 5 >
        • Disparity Exacerbation, Triggered by COVID-19
      • EPISODE 6 >
        • Hidden in the Data: Understanding Bias in Informatics
      • EPISODE 7A >
        • At the Intersection of Asian + American + Female + Physician + Leader (Pt. 1)
      • EPISODE 7B >
        • At the Intersection of Asian + American + Male + Physician + Leader (Pt. 2)
      • EPISODE 8 >
        • Promoting Inclusive Healthcare Environments for LGBTQ Patients
      • EPISODE 9 >
        • The Hidden Curriculum
      • EPISODE 10 >
        • Women Physicians Mid Career Transitions
    • SEASON 2 >
      • EPISODE 1 >
        • Minority Tax
      • EPISODE 2 >
        • A Native Narrative: Caring for American Indian and Alaskan Native Patients
      • EPISODE 3 >
        • Anti-Racism in Healthcare Education
      • EPISODE 4 >
        • Religious and Spiritual Diversity in Healthcare
      • EPISODE 5 >
        • Doctors As Patients
    • SEASON 3 >
      • EPISODE 1 >
        • Voices of URiM Premeds
      • EPISODE 2 >
        • Seize the DEI: Shaping the Future of I.M.
      • EPISODE 3 >
        • Digital Health Equity and Bridging the Divide
      • EPISODE 4a >
        • Food Insecurity- Part 1
      • EPISODE 4b >
        • Food Insecurity- Part 2
      • EPISODE 5 >
        • The Breadth of Addiction Medicine
      • EPISODE 6 >
        • The Power of Primary Care
      • EPISODE 7 >
        • Healthy Policy and Advocacy
    • SEASON 4 >
      • EPISODE 1 >
        • ACP IM 2022 Live
      • EPISODE 2A >
        • Trauma Informed Care Part 1
      • EPISODE 2B >
        • Trauma Informed Care Part 2
      • EPISODE 3 >
        • Pediatric-to-Adult Transitions of Care, Part 1
      • EPISODE 4 >
        • Medical Misinformation and Disinformation
      • EPISODE 5 >
        • Immigrant/Migrant Health
      • EPISODE 6A >
        • Houselessness Part 1
    • SEASON 5 >
      • EPISODE 1 >
        • Houselessness Part 2
      • EPISODE 2A >
        • Climate and Health Part 1
      • EPISODE 2B >
        • Climate and Health Part 2
      • EPISODE 3 >
        • Pediatric-to-Adult Transitions of Care, Part 2
      • EPISODE 4 >
        • Physicians with Disabilities
    • SEASON 6 >
      • EPISODE 1 >
        • Mental Health and Burnout, Part 1
      • EPISODE 2 >
        • Mental Health and Burnout, Part 2
      • EPISODE 3 >
        • Equity in (Local) Global Health
      • EPISODE 4 >
        • Disability and Medical Education, Part 1
      • EPISODE 5 >
        • Disability and Medical Education, Part 2
    • SEASON 7 >
      • EPISODE 1 >
        • (Under)Representation in Occupational Therapy (OT)
      • EPISODE 2 >
        • Parenting in Medicine, Part 1
      • EPISODE 3 >
        • Parenting in Medicine, Part 2
      • EPISODE 4 >
        • Alaska Native Health System
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    • Pain Management
    • Proud To Be GIM Week
    • Disparities in Diagnostic ReasoninG
  • Meet the Team
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