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April 29th, 2025

EPISODE 2

Parenting in Medicine, Part 1
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Join us as we learn from Dr. Brindha Bhavan, an OB/GYN and Reproductive Endocrinology and Infertility specialist, about some of the unique challenges that healthcare providers face in becoming parents, and different pathways of fertility preservation and infertility treatments that are available.

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TRANSCRIPT

Show Notes
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Learning Objectives:

  1. Understand differences in fertility and family planning between physicians and non-physicians outside of the medical field.
  2. Understand different methods of fertility planning and preservation.
  3. List the benefits and limitations of egg/embryo freezing.
  4. Know the time and financial considerations of fertility preservation.

[00:00-00:31] Introduction to The DEI Shift Podcast

[00:31-01:33] Meet Dr. Brinda Bhavan
  • Host Dr. Pooja Jaeel welcomes Dr. Brindha Bhavan, a clinical assistant professor in reproductive endocrinology and infertility.
  • Dr. Bhavan shares her multicultural upbringing and how it shaped her perspective on cultural humility.
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[01:34-05:03] Step in Your Shoes: Dr. Bhavan's Multicultural Upbringing
  • Dr. Bhavan describes her diverse childhood experiences, going to a Greek Orthodox school, having neighbors of different religions, and attending a large public high school with a multicultural friend group.
  • This exposure to various cultures prepared her to better understand and care for patients from diverse backgrounds.

[05:04-11:41] Challenges in Family Planning for Medical Professionals
  • Medical professionals face unique challenges in family planning due to: Loan burden and financial limitations, Demanding schedules with limited time for personal life, Uprooting lives due to training requirements, Age impacting fertility, particularly for women
  • Data suggests infertility rates are twice as high among medical professionals compared to the general population.

[11:42-18:20] Fertility Preservation Methods Explained
  • The two main methods are egg freezing and embryo freezing.
    • Egg freezing is suitable for those unsure about a partner or sperm choice.
    • Embryo freezing involves fertilization, blastocyst development, and optional genetic testing.
  • Costs vary; egg freezing is generally cheaper than embryo freezing.
  • Benefits and limitations of each method should be discussed with a doctor.

[18:21-27:10] Navigating Medical Training and Fertility Treatments
  • Calls to action exist to increase awareness about fertility preservation among medical professionals.
  • Options for family building include adoption, fostering, and assisted reproductive technologies.
  • Understanding the biological differences between men and women regarding egg and sperm production is crucial.
  • Women have a limited window for optimal egg quality and quantity.
  • Men have ongoing sperm production with minimal decline until later in life.

[27:11-30:27] Political Landscape and Advocacy in Reproductive Health
  • The Dobbs decision and its impact on personhood assigned to embryos create anxieties for some patients.
  • Patients facing relocation may need to consider the legal landscape regarding embryos in different states. 

[30:28-31:28] Conclusion and Final Thoughts
  • There's no perfect age for fertility preservation; it's an individual decision.
  • Early discussion with an OB/GYN or Reproductive Endocrinology and Infertility specialist is recommended.
  • Balancing demanding training schedules with fertility procedures can be challenging.
  • Advocating for flexibility and support from training program leadership is crucial.

[31:29-33:24] Outro and Credits

Credits:
Guest: Dr. Brindha Bhavan
Host/Co-Executive Producer: Dr. Pooja Jaeel
Executive Producer: Dr. Tammy Lin
Co-Executive Producers: Dr. Pooja Jaeel, Dr. Maggie Kozman
Senior Producer: Dr. DJ Gaines
Managing Producer: Joanna Jain
Production Assistants: Clara Baek, Ann Truong
Website/Art Design: Ann Truong
Music: Chris Dingman https://www.chrisdingman.com

Resources
Bakkensen JB, Smith KS, Cheung EO, Moreno PI, Goldman KN, Lawson AK, Feinberg EC. Childbearing, Infertility, and Career Trajectories Among Women in Medicine. JAMA Netw Open. 2023 Jul 3;6(7):e2326192. doi: 10.1001/jamanetworkopen.2023.26192. PMID: 37498595; PMCID: PMC10375303.

Lee A, Kuczmarska-Haas A, Dalwadi SM, Gillespie EF, Ludwig MS, Holliday EB, Chino F. Family Planning, Fertility, and Career Decisions Among Female Oncologists. JAMA Netw Open. 2022 Oct 3;5(10):e2237558. doi: 10.1001/jamanetworkopen.2022.37558. PMID: 36315148; PMCID: PMC9623435.

Lucidi RS. Abdominal pain and distension seven days after egg retrieval for planned IVF. In: Chelmow D, Isaacs CR, Carroll A, eds. Acute Care and Emergency Gynecology: A Case-Based Approach. Cambridge University Press; 2014:187-189.

Disclaimer

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    • Table of Contents
    • SEASON 1 >
      • TRAILER
      • EPISODE 1 >
        • WELCOME TO THE DEI SHIFT
      • EPISODE 2 >
        • MEET THE DEI SHIFT: MORNING HANDOFF
      • EPISODE 3 >
        • MENTORSHIP & RECRUITMENT OF URIMS
      • EPISODE 4 >
        • Women in Medicine: "Faces Like Mine"
      • EPISODE 5 >
        • Disparity Exacerbation, Triggered by COVID-19
      • EPISODE 6 >
        • Hidden in the Data: Understanding Bias in Informatics
      • EPISODE 7A >
        • At the Intersection of Asian + American + Female + Physician + Leader (Pt. 1)
      • EPISODE 7B >
        • At the Intersection of Asian + American + Male + Physician + Leader (Pt. 2)
      • EPISODE 8 >
        • Promoting Inclusive Healthcare Environments for LGBTQ Patients
      • EPISODE 9 >
        • The Hidden Curriculum
      • EPISODE 10 >
        • Women Physicians Mid Career Transitions
    • SEASON 2 >
      • EPISODE 1 >
        • Minority Tax
      • EPISODE 2 >
        • A Native Narrative: Caring for American Indian and Alaskan Native Patients
      • EPISODE 3 >
        • Anti-Racism in Healthcare Education
      • EPISODE 4 >
        • Religious and Spiritual Diversity in Healthcare
      • EPISODE 5 >
        • Doctors As Patients
    • SEASON 3 >
      • EPISODE 1 >
        • Voices of URiM Premeds
      • EPISODE 2 >
        • Seize the DEI: Shaping the Future of I.M.
      • EPISODE 3 >
        • Digital Health Equity and Bridging the Divide
      • EPISODE 4a >
        • Food Insecurity- Part 1
      • EPISODE 4b >
        • Food Insecurity- Part 2
      • EPISODE 5 >
        • The Breadth of Addiction Medicine
      • EPISODE 6 >
        • The Power of Primary Care
      • EPISODE 7 >
        • Healthy Policy and Advocacy
    • SEASON 4 >
      • EPISODE 1 >
        • ACP IM 2022 Live
      • EPISODE 2A >
        • Trauma Informed Care Part 1
      • EPISODE 2B >
        • Trauma Informed Care Part 2
      • EPISODE 3 >
        • Pediatric-to-Adult Transitions of Care, Part 1
      • EPISODE 4 >
        • Medical Misinformation and Disinformation
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        • Immigrant/Migrant Health
      • EPISODE 6A >
        • Houselessness Part 1
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      • EPISODE 1 >
        • Houselessness Part 2
      • EPISODE 2A >
        • Climate and Health Part 1
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      • EPISODE 3 >
        • Pediatric-to-Adult Transitions of Care, Part 2
      • EPISODE 4 >
        • Physicians with Disabilities
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      • EPISODE 1 >
        • Mental Health and Burnout, Part 1
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        • Mental Health and Burnout, Part 2
      • EPISODE 3 >
        • Equity in (Local) Global Health
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        • Disability and Medical Education, Part 1
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        • Disability and Medical Education, Part 2
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      • EPISODE 1 >
        • (Under)Representation in Occupational Therapy (OT)
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        • Parenting in Medicine, Part 1
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