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| May 11th, 2022 |

EPISODE 2B

Trauma Informed Care, Pt 2 
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Trauma has an undeniable impact on our patients' health and illness, and resilience is vital to their ability to buffer that trauma. Join us in learning from Dr. Moira Szilagyi (President of the American Academy of Pediatrics) and Dr. Edward Machtinger (Internal Medicine physician and director of UC San Francisco's Center to Advance Trauma-Informed Healthcare) about the key elements of resilience, symptoms that develop when resilience factors are challenged, reframing trauma-informed care as resilience-informed care, secondary traumatic stress, and the fundamental role of trauma in creating/exacerbating health disparities.

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Show Notes
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Learning Objectives:
  1. Define the term resilience in the context of trauma-informed care.
  2. List 3 key individual resilience factors, and identify the symptoms of trauma that may result from impairment in those resilience factors.
  3. Define secondary traumatic stress, and distinguish it from burnout.
  4. Consider how health disparities are caused and exacerbated by trauma, and therefore necessitate a trauma-informed approach to address disparities.

Co-hosts’ Notice: Physician and provider are terms used interchangeably by many in the medical community. The DEI Shift podcast team endorses and supports the use of physician in place of provider where applicable as outlined in ACP policy.

[0:00] Introduction
  • Introduction to co-hosts, guests, and Part 2 

[01:17] ACE Screening and TRIADS Framework in Adults and Families
  • Dr. Machtinger discusses the impact of ACE screening and how it provides patients with an ability to reflect on their trauma and inform the physician as well. 
  • Dr. Machtinger describes the TRIADS screening framework developed by child psychologist Alicia Lieberman.
  • Dr. Machtinger discusses how his patients (many black and brown women with HIV and substance use disorder) and healthcare professionals in their clinic both have high ACE scores. 
  • He is working on a “Whole Family Wellness” study that will be used to do extensive qualitative interviews with patients, families, staff, and community organizations, to understand their needs. 
  • Dr. Szilagyi discusses a study wherein they found the importance of debriefing patients on their trauma, making real connections with them, and listening to their own reflections on how trauma has impacted them and what they wanted from their children’s pediatricians. 
    
[10:27] Resilience and Individual Resilience Factors
  • Dr. Kozman mentions Dr. Szilagyi’s book: Childhood Trauma and Resilience: A Practical Guide and asks her to define “resilience”. 
  • Dr. Szilagyi talks about how resilience is a process that develops over time and is an interaction between genes, environment, and the care one receives. 
  • Dr. Szilagyi discusses research on resilience and how it is found the resilience can be biologically embedded. 

[15:00] THREADS of Resilience, which can become FRAYED
  • Dr. Szilagyi discusses co-author Dr. Heather Forkey’s THREADS acronym for individual resilience factors and details each component.
  • She then discusses Dr. Forkey’s FRAYED acronym for symptoms that occur when one’s threads of resilience factors become frayed.

[22:00] Secondary Traumatic Stress/Compassion Fatigue
  • Dr. Kozman defines Secondary Traumatic Stress (also called compassion fatigue) which refers to symptoms resulting from indirect exposure to traumatic experiences of others and leads to symptoms that mimic PTSD symptoms in the people who are taking care of trauma survivors. 
  • Secondary traumatic stress/compassion fatigue are different from burnout, but some of the same things can mitigate both phenomena.

[23:20] Trauma’s Fundamental Role in Health Disparities, and Need for Reform
  • Dr. Machtinger describes how the differential distributions of trauma and protective factors are fundamental in the development of health disparities, and strongly believes that we cannot meaningfully address disparities until we first dramatically reform primary care and implement a trauma-informed approach. 

[29:00] Take Home Points
  • Dr. Machtinger and Dr. Szilagyi both discuss their final take home points. They stress that trauma-informed care allows us to build better understanding and connections with patients and leads to better health outcomes for them, as well as more joy and thriving for us in our professional lives and work. 

[31:00] Closing Remarks
  • Contact The DEI Shift if you would like to share about trauma-informed care projects you are implementing in your own health system!
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Resources
  • Forkey HC, Griffin JL, Szilagyi M. Childhood trauma and resilience: a practical guide. American Academy of Pediatrics; 2021.  
  • Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration. SAMHSA’s Concept of Trauma and Guidance for a Trauma-Informed Approach. HHS Publication No. (SMA) 14-4884. Rockville, MD: Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, 2014. Free download at https://store.samhsa.gov/product/SAMHSA-s-Concept-of-Trauma-and-Guidance-for-a-Trauma-Informed-Approach/SMA14-4884
  • National Child Traumatic Stress Network. https://www.nctsn.org/ 
  • Felitti VJ, Anda RF, Nordenberg D, Williamson DF, Spitz AM, Edwards V, Koss MP, Marks JS. Relationship of childhood abuse and household dysfunction to many of the leading causes of death in adults. The Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACE) Study. Am J Prev Med. 1998 May;14(4):245-58. PMID: 9635069. https://www.ajpmonline.org/article/S0749-3797(98)00017-8/fulltext 
  • Masten AS, Barnes AJ. Resilience in children: developmental perspective. Children (Basel). 2018;5(7):98 PMID:30018217
  • Masten AS. Ordinary magic: resilience processes in development. Am Psychol. 2001;56(3):227-238 PMID: 11315249
  • Machtinger EL, Davis KB, Kimberg LS, Khanna N, Cuca YP, Dawson-Rose C, Shumway M, Campbell J, Lewis-O’Connor A, Blake M, Blanch A, McCaw B. From treatment to healing: Inquiry and response to recent and past trauma in adult health care. Women’s Health Issues. 2019 March;29(2):97-102. Published online Dec 2018. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.whi.2018.11.003 ​

Credits:
Guests: Dr. Moira Szilagyi, Dr. Edward Machtinger
Co-hosts/Producers: Dr. Maggie Kozman, Dr. DJ Gaines
Executive Producer: Dr. Tammy Lin 
Co-Executive Producers: Dr. Pooja Jaeel, Dr. Tiffany Leung
Senior Producers: Dr. Maggie Kozman, Dr. DJ Gaines
Editor/Assistant Producer: Joanna Jain
Production Assistants: Nilgoun Farhadi, Sanika Walimbe
Website/Art Design: Ann Truong
Music: Chris Dingman
 
 
Disclaimer: The DEI Shift podcast and its guests provide general information and entertainment, but not medical advice. Before making any changes to your medical treatment or execution of your treatment plan, please consult with your doctor or personal medical team. Reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by The DEI Shift. The views expressed by guests are their own, and their appearance on the podcast does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by The DEI Shift team are those of each individual, and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of The DEI Shift team and its guests, employers, sponsors, or organizations we are affiliated with. 
 
Season 4 of The DEI Shift podcast is proudly sponsored by the American College of Physicians Southern California Region III Chapter.  
 
The DEI Shift theme music is brought to you by Chris Dingman. Learn more at www.chrisdingman.com. 
 
Contact us: [email protected], @thedeishift, thedeishift.com ​

Disclaimer

.The DEI Shift podcast and its guests provide general information and entertainment, but not medical advice. Before making any changes to your medical treatment or execution of your treatment plan, please consult with your doctor or personal medical team. Reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by The DEI Shift. The views expressed by guests are their own, and their appearance on the podcast does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by The DEI Shift team are those of each individual, and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of The DEI Shift team and its guests, employers, sponsors, or organizations we are affiliated with.

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        • MEET THE DEI SHIFT: MORNING HANDOFF
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        • MENTORSHIP & RECRUITMENT OF URIMS
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        • Women in Medicine: "Faces Like Mine"
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        • Disparity Exacerbation, Triggered by COVID-19
      • EPISODE 6 >
        • Hidden in the Data: Understanding Bias in Informatics
      • EPISODE 7A >
        • At the Intersection of Asian + American + Female + Physician + Leader (Pt. 1)
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        • Promoting Inclusive Healthcare Environments for LGBTQ Patients
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        • Women Physicians Mid Career Transitions
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        • Minority Tax
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        • A Native Narrative: Caring for American Indian and Alaskan Native Patients
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        • Anti-Racism in Healthcare Education
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        • Religious and Spiritual Diversity in Healthcare
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        • Doctors As Patients
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      • EPISODE 1 >
        • Voices of URiM Premeds
      • EPISODE 2 >
        • Seize the DEI: Shaping the Future of I.M.
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        • Digital Health Equity and Bridging the Divide
      • EPISODE 4a >
        • Food Insecurity- Part 1
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        • Food Insecurity- Part 2
      • EPISODE 5 >
        • The Breadth of Addiction Medicine
      • EPISODE 6 >
        • The Power of Primary Care
      • EPISODE 7 >
        • Healthy Policy and Advocacy
    • SEASON 4 >
      • EPISODE 1 >
        • ACP IM 2022 Live
      • EPISODE 2A >
        • Trauma Informed Care Part 1
      • EPISODE 2B >
        • Trauma Informed Care Part 2
      • EPISODE 3 >
        • Pediatric-to-Adult Transitions of Care, Part 1
      • EPISODE 4 >
        • Medical Misinformation and Disinformation
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        • Immigrant/Migrant Health
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        • Houselessness Part 1
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        • Disability and Medical Education, Part 1
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      • EPISODE 1 >
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        • Parenting in Medicine, Part 1
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